Talk:Rhossili old

Shipwreck Cove Panorama

Anyone think this could make a good topo photo?

File:Shipwreck pano.jpg

resolution: 9811 x 2592

I'm thinking of its use on tablets and smart phones.

Mermaid Wall Panorama

File:Mermaid pano.jpg

resolution: 8500 × 2944

Mess

The Rhossili pages are an absolute mess! A case of too many cooks. --Alan rosier (talk) 16:00, 10 June 2013 (BST)

It would make sense to have a Rhossili area with sub-pages. I don't think it's a case of 'too many cooks'. It's a case, perhaps, of not using the 'Talk' pages enough. We're all guilty of that! --Tim Hoddy (talk) 16:06, 10 June 2013 (BST)

Chris, you want the guidebook page for this crag, word doc?

Alan. Why have you protected this page? --Tim Hoddy 10:08, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

dunno, force of habit i guess.--Alan rosier 06:59, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes please--80.4.14.46 19:31, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

The White Pole

The 2003 Guidebook mentions a "white pole" on the Rhossili clifftop and uses it in its descriptions of crag locations.

Quite a few people have said that this "white pole" has been mis-identified and this error has been mentioned in connection with a fatal accident in the area.

I've commented out references to the "white pole" in the wiki-markup but you can still see them if you look at the source. Please do not remove the commenting. We need someone to re-write the access notes for this area as, as it stands at the moment, access descriptions are incomplete. --Tim Hoddy 13:02, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Link

Gareth, what are you trying to do here? --Tim Hoddy 23:22, 21 February 2011 (GMT)

Black Buttress

Roy, my description for the line of bolts on Black Buttress was made from an assessment of the route from the ground. If you have better info, just remove my edit and put your own text. --Tim Hoddy 17:14, 25 July 2011 (BST)

Hi Tim,whose route is it/who bolted it? The rock was rubbish,the bolts squiffy and there were great clodges in the finishing hold. The route to the right has always been given(Bragg) V diff not VS but there again we didn't climb it so your assessment might be "the one"Are the first ascentionists(N,P Williams)still about?I'm assuming they are Swansea locals of a certain age.

Hello Roy! I was surprised to see the hangers when I went down there to map the Rhossili crags. Perhaps you could add your assessment to the spiel at the beginning of the Black Buttress section? About Bragg; User:Steve Hill climbed it and he said he thought it was VS and he then updated the wiki. I'll ask around and see whether anyone knows N. & P. Williams. --Tim Hoddy 15:15, 26 July 2011 (BST)

Chipping on Trial Wall

Noticed the rference to chipping has been removed.

Is this because:-

• It's untrue
• Don't know whether it's true or not
• It's true
• It's not "politik" to refer to it
• something else

It's not obvious/blatant that it was done in latter years/or originally, you probably would never notice and it's just beating a very old fashioned self righteous drum

Fairy nuff. --Tim Hoddy 19:47, 20 September 2011 (BST)

Retribution Butt Stress

Retribution Butt Stress? Conjours up some interesting images. --Alan rosier 10:25, 2 December 2011 (GMT)

Skill attack grade?

Given 7c on UKC, but 7b+ here. http://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/c.php?i=64878 Which is it? --Bendavies 15:35, 31 August 2012 (BST)

Ask a few "old school" climbers E6 6b=7b+.(the bolts have been in and out so many times so its only the E'ness that has changed)--Roy thomas 17:45, 31 August 2012 (BST)

If Bill recons its 7c, then it probably is.--Alan rosier 21:07, 31 August 2012 (BST)

Happy to update wiki and image topo then? --Bendavies 11:43, 2 September 2012 (BST)

RHOSSILI BAY The old directions to Attrition seem a bit odd Poser Butt is in the wrong direction and shouldn't this be part of Crags Off The Beach. The approaches for these lower beach crags need rejigging.

Black Buttress is the old Sense Of Adventure.

Hi Tim owing to duff descriptions from F.A Sense of Adventure was placed (we could never find it) in the wrong location. After getting to be more familiar with the area I've now located the 2 aretes mentioned (and more to be done)They are the right hand side of the Black Buttress Bay where bolting is permitted.Suggest you ditch Sense of Adventure name call it Black But.. Right and move the text to the right spot,too technical for me without retyping the lot again. Hope this makes sense to you. Ask Al to rejig the walk in notes for Rhossilli when he goes to do battle at shipwreck cove.--Roy thomas (talk) 11:00, 11 June 2013 (BST)

OK, I'll adjust that section. I've seen the rock to the right of Black Buttress... it's pretty grotty but was surprised to find there were, apparently, no routes on it. --Tim Hoddy (talk) 11:08, 11 June 2013 (BST)

I think Adrian's done his project at shipwreck

He's been around this week.Do a quick trawl of the usual forums and the name/grade will probably pop up--Roy thomas (talk) 23:51, 21 July 2013 (BST)

Topo Shipwreck cove

I think route 1 Stuart's Project has a seperate belay and curves a little more left(the bolts start high up after a slabby bit).Simon trad E4 which I may not have drawn on the original topo might have got mixed up with this line.

The 3 uber projects on the steepest part of the cave have gone from the topo but Adrian did his last week AIR SHOW 8b if you want to draw it back on and add it to text.

It looks like they may have straightened out the starts of the routes just before this with extra bolts direct from the sand,it seems so from the topo but I haven't been there for months so whoever went there last knows better than me.--Roy thomas (talk) 10:56, 23 July 2013 (BST)

Can you and Alan agree on what should go on the topo? --Tim Hoddy (talk) 00:24, 24 July 2013 (BST)

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yvbuyvyvyuv--Roy thomas (talk) 17:41, 23 July 2013 (BST)

Splitting Rhossili Page

I suspect it is worth splitting this page into two. Upper and Sea Level or (more controversially perhaps) Rhossili Sport and Rhossili Traditional . Thoughts ? --Tim Hoddy (talk) 00:59, 4 August 2013 (BST)

I agree, Upper and Sea Level seems the most appropriate split as they have different approaches.--Alan rosier (talk) 20:44, 5 August 2013 (BST)

I suggest we start thinking about that then. Rhossili page with general stuff and map. On that page large links to Upper Crags and to Sea Level Crags ? --Tim Hoddy (talk) 23:46, 5 August 2013 (BST)

Formatting Route Text

Whilst I'm not a fan of using '#' to prepend route names and descriptions, I guess that's the way we are doing things now. One point I would like to make is that I think this way of doing things can be improved somewhat. E.g

syntax

#'''Spades Of Glory - Fr. 5'''<br>The wall and crack system left of the undercut V groove. 16 m<br><br>

gives us

1. Spades Of Glory - Fr. 5
   The wall and crack system left of the undercut V groove. 16 m
   
   

Now... I prefer:

#'''Spades Of Glory''' - Fr. 5<br>The wall and crack system left of the undercut V groove. 16 m<br><br>

which gives

1. Spades Of Glory - Fr. 5
   The wall and crack system left of the undercut V groove. 16 m
   
   

And is, in my opinion, somewhat clearer; i.e. it separates the often obscure route name text from other text on that line.

Thoughts anyone ? --Tim Hoddy (talk) 15:09, 5 August 2013 (BST)

tried it the other way...

syntax

#Spades Of Glory - '''Fr. 5'''<br>The wall and crack system left of the undercut V groove. 16 m<br><br>

gives us

1. Spades Of Glory - Fr. 5
   The wall and crack system left of the undercut V groove. 16 m
   
   

But, I still prefer the all bold text on first line. Personal preference.

Retribution Wall

Surely, this should be Retrobution Wall.