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Talk I have changed the location of Overlapping Wall (route 19 in the book). I believe this to be on the gully wall immediately right of A Grave End. White Wall is the next buttress to the right and has little of interest on its right wall. If I am wrong then some one has climbed a new route as the crack line had chalk on it recently! I have not climbed this route but I did do Marmite and can confirm its grade and star. Lovely!

"Pennard is the sweep of white rocks that dominate the far east skyline on the eastern Gower, opposite Oxwich Bay to the west."
Yer wot? --Tim Hoddy 23:18, 16 October 2011 (BST)

I went there for the first time yesterday.

The guidebook description was not helpful.

From Pennard the view / outlook is of Oxwich Quarry and Point. Conversely (having been there) Pennard is clearly visible from Oxwich quarry/point on the far eastern skyline.

That's true, if you know where it is, Gravesend is easy spot from Oxwich. Oxwich is, of course, easy to spot from Gravesend/Pennard. This is all true given clear conditions, otherwise someone would have to be forgiven for identifying Shire Combe as Pennard.
But anyway, you've given me an idea. Perhaps an annotated coastline pic of the crags looking east from Oxwich, (on a clear day of course) would be a good thing to have. --Tim Hoddy 20:30, 17 October 2011 (BST)

Anything like that helps. For a visitor, the coastline of Gower is very difficult to visualise, especially without a point of reference.--Alan rosier 21:49, 18 October 2011 (BST)

Anyone object to downgrading sudan to E1? --Chris Wyatt 21:50, 13 January 2012 (GMT)

Haven't done it. Seepage was to my mind bold for E1, the gear was pants. --Alan rosier 11:59, 20 January 2012 (GMT)

I've added a new route to Graves End that I did with Joe Gallagher last week. Hopefully the formatting and that is all ok. --Ian Goudge 13:44, 31 July 2013 (GMT)